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	<title>Cloud Accountants &#187; Company News</title>
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		<title>Who holds your Xero subscription? It&#8217;s your call.</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudaccountants.co.nz/2014/05/who-holds-your-xero-subscription-its-your-call/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justinkeen]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the last couple of weeks have certainly caused a stir around client data ownership, Xero subscriptions and who holds them. &#160; At Cloud Accountants we have made the decision to give our clients (both existing and future) the choice of whether they hold their Xero subscriptions or if we do. We believe this is [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Wow, the last couple of weeks have certainly caused a stir around client data ownership, Xero subscriptions and who holds them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>At Cloud Accountants we have made the decision to give our clients (both existing and future) the choice of whether they hold their Xero subscriptions or if we do.</strong></p>
<p>We believe this is the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Yes we do receive a discount for being a gold partner with Xero, that we pass directly onto our clients as a part of our agreed monthly fees.</p>
<p>But we do not like the idea or perception that the accountants or bookkeepers are, or can hold the subscription to ransom if a dispute arises.</p>
<p>We pride ourselves on open communication lines at Cloud Accountants so for a dispute to get as far as it did with an article in the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/small-business/finance/my-20000-mistake-20140417-36u7a.html" target="_blank">Sydney Morning Herald</a> is a little beyond me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All Chartered Accounting firms should have signed engagement letters in place which would cover such issues, and outline the scope of any engagement.</p>
<p>This would cover the holding of client records, and not just the subscription to any online service.</p>
<p>A great <a href="http://boxfreeit.com.au/2014/05/05/subscriptions-problem/" target="_blank">post</a> by Guy Pearson of <a href="http://www.practiceignition.com/" target="_blank">Practice Ignition</a> explains this well and we are rolling out their system here at Cloud Accountants for both engagement letters and client proposals.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Xero do need to take some responsibility and they have indicated that they are doing so. This would cover two areas:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="line-height: 13px">Clear guidelines and updated Terms of Use around the subscription and ownership of information</span></li>
<li>Partner pages and the order of the list depending on how many Xero subscriptions you hold</li>
</ul>
<p>Xero, by presenting the partner list in this way, have created an &#8216;order of merit&#8217; based on the numbers of subscriptions the accountants or bookkeepers hold.</p>
<p>Firms start to get precious and want to protect their position on the list.</p>
<p>This is not healthy in my view.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Blog post response from Xero <a href="http://www.xero.com/blog/2014/04/managing-xero-subscription/" target="_blank">here</a> and BoxFreeIT <a href="http://boxfreeit.com.au/2014/04/24/accounting-file-xeros-position-hard-defend/" target="_blank">here</a> with plenty of comments.</p>
<p>We will be in touch with our existing clients shortly to discuss further.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>George FM ad</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cloud Accountants]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We, at Cloud Accountants, are pretty excited about our radio ad that started on George FM yesterday. Big thanks to Barnie (for his patience) and Samuel! You can listen here:]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, at Cloud Accountants, are pretty excited about our radio ad that started on <a href="http://www.georgefm.co.nz/" target="_blank">George FM</a> yesterday.</p>
<p>Big thanks to Barnie (for his patience) and Samuel!</p>
<p>You can listen here:</p>
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		<title>Welcome to Cloud Accountants!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cloud Accountants]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi and welcome to Cloud Accountants. We are excited to introduce you to our accounting firm that will be attempting to provide you with the best possible accounting service efficiency. We pride ourselves on real time processing (We love Xero!), reporting and advice. We respond in a timely manner, so less reactive and more proactive. [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi and welcome to Cloud Accountants.</p>
<p>We are excited to introduce you to our accounting firm that will be attempting to provide you with the best possible accounting service efficiency.</p>
<ul>
<li> We pride ourselves on real time processing (We love Xero!), reporting and advice. We respond in a timely manner, so less reactive and more proactive.</li>
<li> We use fixed price agreement structures, so no surprise fees!</li>
<li> We guarantee timeframes for preparation of your year end financial statements so you can make the decisions for your business now (when it counts), not in 6 months time.</li>
<li> We can introduce you to the technologies that can create the efficiencies in your business. Xero, Smart Payroll, Workflowmax, Unleashed.</li>
</ul>
<p>So have a look around the website, sign up to our blog feed, follow us on Twitter, and <a href="http://www.cloudaccountants.co.nz/contact/" target="_self">contact us</a> for an obligation free chat.</p>
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